Re: CP digest 515
Andrew Marshall (andrewm@eskimo.com)
Tue, 31 Oct 1995 11:03:50 -0800 (PST)
Hello out there, 
	In reference to last nights opus.  I to use an oil/ soap mix 
spray upon occasion.  It goes as follows.
	to make the base mixture.  
	1 cup of vegetable oil to 1 tablespoon of lemon scented 
dishwasing liquid.  Put in a screw top type jar with a lid on and shake 
vigorously to mix.
	To make the actual spray I use 1 to 2 teaspoons of the base mix 
in a cup of water.  Put this in a spray bottle, shake well and saturate 
the plant, both sides of the leaves.
	I will sometimes "spice" it up a bit with some properly measured 
amounts of orthene or dimethoate.  This for a really bad attack of 
something.  
	It is important to remember that this spray unspiced, is not a 
systemic.  It only kills ALL insects and must be in contact to do it.  It 
works by suffocating them.  Beware on which insects it is sprayed on.  It 
does NOT distinguish good from bad.  Also beware of exactly what plants 
you spray it on.  I have used this spray to good or bad for many years 
and it will kill some plants.  I will list the plants I have found that 
will take it and those that won't.  In the dosage of 2 teaspoon 
strength.  Any Sarracenia that is at least 3 yrs old,  well established 
hard leaved Nepenthes (not seedlings,fresh out of tc plantlets or those 
fresh out of excessive humidity enclosures.  I'm sure you know what I mean)
in the dosage of 1 teaspoon.  any smaller Sarracenia, Nepenthes, most 
common Drosera, most common terrestrial Utricularia, Heliamphora, 
Dionaea, Pinguicula, Darlingtonia not planted in live sphagnum moss.
	DO NOT USE ON Cephalotus.  if it doesn't actually smother the 
plant, it usually encorages a type of uncontrollable mold that will.
	Now obviously if you are going to spice it up with a chemical you 
will have to use your own discretion.  
	This spray works well on scale(especially when used in 
conjunction with a properly wielded cotten swab), aphids, meally bugs(see 
the note accompanying scale), spider and other types of mites, thrips as 
well as like I mentioned ant other bugs such as honey bees, lady bird 
beetles etc.  
	Lastly I have noticed that some times it will encorage the same 
type of killer mold that kills Cephalotus in the live sphagnum moss.  For 
this reason I am hesitant to use it on my epiphytic Utricularia or on 
Darlingtonia planted in live sphagnum.  Here I will soak a cotten ball in 
the spray and apply it direct.  I will usually have mixed an appropriate 
systemic insecticide with it to keep the bugs in the moss at bay.  
	You can use this on your vegetable or flower garden right up 
until the day of eating(wash first) unless you have added an 
insecticide.  Then I wouldn't eat anything.  Of course if you are someone 
who doesn't care about toxins on you food then go right ahead but DON'T 
blame me.  
btw. if you kill any plant through following these notes,  its not my 
fault.  I am merely reporting what I have done with this mix.  Also I 
want to mention that I found the mix in Organic Gardening mag.  They use 
it too.  
bye for now 	
	Good Growing
	Andrew