Date: Tue, 14 Jan 97 02:49:16 GMT From: saharris@iafrica.com (Eric Green) To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com Message-Id: <aabcdefg173$foo@default> Subject: Apologies again!!!
Hi!,
Why am I having to apologize for all this mess!!!!.
I received an e-mail message from Mr.Schlauer on 1/13/97 and it
concluded with this sentance.
(Would you mind to write a short note (news & views) for CPN on
all this mess?)
I cultivate over 600 different
species/hybrids/forms/varieties/nom.nuds of Carnivorous Plants for
my own pleasure, many with names like Pinguicula pachuca, ayautla,
sp linz, Drosera sp 2 Cuba, sp 8 Borneo etc. names which I doubt
have ever been "published", many having been in use these past 20
years of me growing them.
Mr.Schlauer requested info on the listserve 1/9/97 regarding
60+ Nepenthes names he had never seen "published", unfortunately
one looked familiar to me, I regretably answered.
Dear Jan
Approximately 5 years ago, Mr Londt, a horticulturist/botanist?
of the Pretoria Botanical Gardens, had heard I grew CPs, and phoned
to ask if I was interested in some pollen of a Nep flowering at the
Botanical Gardens, which he believed had come from Madagascar. The
pollen was used on khasiana, ventricosa and x Rokko.
I would assume the pollen was either madagascariensis or
masoalensis, but that is even doubtful.
ALL THE BEST Eric
Dear Eric,
So the hybrid name "Londt" is your product? When was it published
where so that Phill Mann from Australia uses it like other
published names?
Thank you very much in advance for any information.
Kind regards
Jan
Dear Jan,
Seeds of the crosses I made were sent to Allen Lowrie,
informing him of the possibility that the "Londt" could either be
madagascariensis or masoalensis. It appeared on Allen's seed list
as Londt.
ALL THE BEST Eric
Dear Eric,
As _Nepenthes madagascariensis_ is much more common than _N.
masoalensis_, the former is most likely the plant Mr. Londt has
sent you pollen of. Then you have sent an undeclared mixture of
seed of crosses made by pollinating _N. khasiana, ventricosa_ and *
Rokko with "Londt" to Allen Lowrie who sells this jumble (i.e. not
the parent species) as "Londt". I have now received a synonym list
from Phill Mann who states the bastard formula "? madagascariensis
* masoalensis" for Nepenthes * Londt .
Can you imagine what will circulate as "Londt" among _Nepenthes_
growers around the globe within a few months (and the subsequent
questions of these growers on the internet and elsewhere)?
Would you mind to write a short note (news & views) for CPN on
all this mess?
Kind regards
Jan
The above can be used in the CP Newsletter as a question and
answer article if the Editor wishes, I have seen similiar articles
in the Playboy.
My Nep.x rokko which has been cultivated in South Africa these
past 30 years, well before my CP days, does not look anything like
the x rokko I have seen in "published" books, so the "Londt x rokko
could be almost anything, but then again my Nep.macfarlanei looks
nothing like the photo on page 107 of the amazing Kondo book, but
when Dr.Roger Shivas visited me some years ago, he confirmed that
mine was the correct species.
KIND REGARDS Eric Green
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