Re. U.arenaria/U.livida

From: Loyd Wix (Loyd.Wix@unilever.com)
Date: Thu Nov 06 1997 - 05:53:47 PST


Date: 06 Nov 1997 14:53:47 +0100
From: Loyd Wix <Loyd.Wix@unilever.com>
To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
Message-Id: <aabcdefg4245$foo@default>
Subject: Re. U.arenaria/U.livida


          Dear Derick,
          
>I have a plant that is labeled "U.arenaria" that is now in
>the midst of flowering and the flowers look an awful lot
>like another plant I have labeled U.livida.
          
          U.livida is a very variable plant showing a wide range of
          flower shapes and colours. Some of the smaller less brightly
          coloured forms can bear a resemblance to U.arenaria.
          
>I'm pretty sure the U.livida has been labelled correctly,
          as >I have seen this in other people's collections
          flowering, >and they're the same look, but I've never seen
          U.arenaria >before, so I'm not sure if this plant looks a
          lot like >U.livida, has been mislabelled or just invaded by
          U.livida.
          
          The commonest form of U.livida that I have seen in
          cultivation in the UK has approximately 1cm oval bi-coloured
          (white/mauve) flowers. The U.arenaria that I grow has
          flowers allot narrower than this common clone of U.livida.
          The over all flower colour is off white with darker mauve
          markings - superficially the flowers have elements which
          reminds me of both U.livida and U.sandersonii.
          
>The flowers are close enough that I can't really tell any
>major differences; it's possible that the U.arenaria has a
>slightly longer spur and maybe a little more pointed lower
>corolla lip.
          
          According to Taylor the spur in U.arenaria is longer in
          comparison with the lower corolla lip than in U.livida,
          differences also occur in the pedicles but at the moment I
          have no flowers to compare against.
          
> The leaves in the pot of U.arenaria were small, ovate
>(2-3mm x 4-5mm) dark green leaves very close to the ground.
>Lately, it's sent up some slightly longer, narrower,
>lighter green leaves that have been a bit more vertical in
>growth, but that may just be because they're new leaves.
          
          U.livida typically produces broader leaves than U.arenaria
          some of which can be 'fan' shaped.
          
          One difference I have noticed in cultivation is that
          U.arenaria sets plenty of seed without my intervention. The
          common U.livida clone I mentioned doesn't set seed even when
          I have attempted to hand pollinate the flowers. However
          other U.livida plants I grow particularly the attractive
          blue flower forms will set seed so this observation is not
          enough to confirm the ID. If possible take some photos of
          the plants.
          
          I hope this has been of some help.
          
          Kind Regards
          
          Loyd
           



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