Re: Edible Ibicella (really Proboscidea)

From: Stephen Davis (stephend@ricochet.net)
Date: Thu Feb 11 1999 - 22:29:36 PST


Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:29:36 -0800
From: Stephen Davis <stephend@ricochet.net>
To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
Message-Id: <aabcdefg419$foo@default>
Subject: Re: Edible Ibicella (really Proboscidea)

You can get quite a few different varieties of Proboscidea (Devils
Claw) from Native Seed/Search. They are a group in AZ that exists
to conserve the traditional crops, seeds and farming methods of the
Native Americans.

http://desert.net/seeds/home.htm. email nss@azstarnet.com Phone:
520-622-5561

A very interesting catalog. I picked up at the Phoenix Botanical
gardens, (a must see for both plant and animal lovers, by the way)
while looking for Ibicella. They don't have Ibicella, but the
Proboscidea is referred to as "Devils Claw" (lighting, thunder and
organ music playing in the background)

Since a lot of people have been asking about the edible nature of
it, their catalog says: "Cultivated by many Southwest tribes, the
seed is rich in oil and protein. The black fiber of the fruit or
"claw" is used in basketry. Dried seeds can be peeled and eaten,
and are sometimes used to polish ollas. The young fruits, when
still tender, can be cooked as an okra-like vegetable."

To tie this in with CP, perhaps can do the same thing with Ibicella,
but the connection seems to be the common name, and the shape of the
seeds. I'm not sure that is really a connection, except in our own
minds. But I'm not a botonist, and I have yet to set eyes on a
living plant of either genus.

By the way, if you are weaving baskets with the claws, avoid
multiple claws to prevent the birth of twins. Lots of interesting
info, but it's off topic. Hope this hasn't driven too many people
crazy already.

Stephen Davis Still haven't been able to contribute a darn thing to
this list about CP, but someday...

Peter Cole wrote:

> on Sun, 07 Feb 1999 23:34:27 PST > "Chris Hind"
<chind@hotmail.com> wrote: > .. > > I've been told you can cook
like a vegetable or pickle and eat premature > > Ibicella lutea
Devil's Claws? Does anyone else know of any other edible > >
carnivorous (or subcarnivorous) plants? Any edible sundews? > >
I'd not heard that of Ibicella, but certainly Proboscidea parviflora
was > formerly cultivated by the Hopi Indians as a foodstuff.

> Stephen Davis

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