Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 18:56:43 -0700 From: jneps <jneps@gateway.net> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com Message-Id: <aabcdefg178$foo@default> Subject: Re: bitch, bitch, bitch
Hi Phil,
I agree with your assessment of the situation. However,
I hope that you will not unsub from the list. People
like you are needed.
It is unfortunate that the list has degraded somewhat, but
with the proliferation of the web, I think it was bound to
happen.
Hope to see you in CA in the spring!
Regards,
Jeff Shafer
Phil Faulisi wrote:
>
> I agree! When I signed up on this listserv it was because a dear friend
> of mine practically begged me to. He said he was a member of this great
> cp info exchange forum that had great articles on the hobby. He sent me
> a few of the past articles last year and it thoroughly peaked my
> interest. From what I can tell now, he must have sent me articles that
> were posted during a time when everyone treated the listserv with the
> respect it deserved. What a pleasure it was to read letters from true cp
> icons. People that I have read about through the ICPS for the last 15
> or so years.
>
> Now you've scared them all off with all this battleground bull----. I've
> been growing cp's for almost 30 years now and at 38 years old I am still
> growing (hundreds of plants), still learning and still yearning for new
> information on the subject this listserv was created for. A place
> designed for sharing everyone's knowledge and field trips and passion
> for growing cp's. All that has seemed to change so rapidly now. Now when
> I get my e-mail I cringe when I see I got one from the cp listserv. I
> know what to expect.
> I can expect at any given time to see arguments and back stabbing and
> thievery and just plain old court room stuff that's better left to Judge
> Judy! Sure you can all tell me to just scroll past all the messages I
> don't want to read and I do. But why should I have to? Why should I
> receive 8 or 10 messages and 7 of the 10 are continuations of the same
> fight, every single day. I don't WANT to have to unsubscribe. I want to
> come home from work and read great articles of culture and news of new
> species and growing techniques from Peter and Barry and Jan, etc.
> OK, so somebody broke the law and stole another hard working cp
> enthusiasts web page. Let's do what we have to. But please, let's not
> forget about the material that's the main reason most of us are here.
>
> Speaking of which, I am opening my home and greenhouses for refreshments
> and tours during the convention. I would love to meet some of you, many
> of which have already made plans to visit me. Let me show you why I love
> cp's so much. I am more than happy to meet you here for a really good
> time. You can contact me privately and I will give you directions and
> information on finding me. I am really looking forward to this. I am
> ecstatic about meeting people and sharing the passion for these
> wonderful plants. And it doesn't matter to me if it's in person or via
> an e-mail listserv! hint, hint.
> Happy and healthy growing to you all. And yes,
> justice WILL prevail :-) My appologies to you Fernando for your loss.
> Phil
>
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