Randy Palmer
sfdzeqe0@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us
On Fri, 12 Apr 1996 cp@opus.hpl.hp.com wrote:
> CP Digest 681
>
> Topics covered in this issue include:
>
> 1) Nepenthes Choice
> by "Demetrio Lamzaki" <Dee_Lamzaki@msn.com>
> 2) _Nepenthes bicalcarata_ hybrids
> by Jan@pbc-ths1.pci.chemie.uni-tuebingen.de (Jan Schlauer)
> 3) New subscriber
> by horticom@megatoon.com (Larry Hodgson)
> 4) Hi all...we're back...
> by andreas.wistuba@rhein-neckar.de (Andreas Wistuba)
> 5) Re: "Extinct" Habitat
> by Paul Temple 12-Apr-1996 1458 <temple_p@fangio.enet.dec.com>
> 6) Re: _Nepenthes bicalcarata_ hybrids
> by Oliver T Massey CFS <massey@hal.fmhi.usf.edu>
> 7) Naming help please - P.heterophylla Papalo
> by "Paul Temple" <temple_p@gmt.dec.com>
> 8) RE: Dean Cook
> by dholguin@socorro.k12.tx.us (David Holguin)
> 9) VFT infestation
> by MPM7347@ACS.TAMU.EDU
> 10) VFT Flowering/propagation
> by MPM7347@ACS.TAMU.EDU
> 11) Re: VFT infestation
> by korfhage@lis.pitt.edu (robert korfhage)
> 12) Re: "Extinct" Habitat
> by Sean Barry <sjbarry@ucdavis.edu>
> 13) Re: "Extinct" Habitat
> by "Michael.Chamberland" <23274MJC@MSU.EDU>
> 14) Re: _Nepenthes bicalcarata_ hybrids
> by Robert Beer <bbeer@u.washington.edu>
> 15) Re: Darlingtonia Blooming
> by Clarke Brunt <clarke@brunt.demon.co.uk>
> 16) Re: VFT Flowering/propagation
> by dave evans <T442119@RUTADMIN.RUTGERS.EDU>
> 17) Re: Drosera on ICPS newsletter
> by Peter Cole <carnivor@bunyip.demon.co.uk>
> 18) Re: Fast growing Neps
> by bb626@scn.org (SCN User)
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 1
>
> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 96 08:15:42 UT
> From: "Demetrio Lamzaki" <Dee_Lamzaki@msn.com>
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: Nepenthes Choice
> Message-ID: <UPMAIL02.199604120816580785@msn.com>
>
> >I am going to set up a warm glasshouse (winter min. 13'C (55'F))
> >and I want a couple of Nepenthes climbing up one side of it. I
> >wondered if anyone could tell me which species would be good
> >for this, (the faster growing species of Highland origin) but not N.
> >alata or khasiana.
>
> Toby, I second Bob's suggestion of N. ventricosa, the smooth pitcher texture
> is quite outstanding, some varieties look like they're made of wax or
> porcelain. The brilliant red peristome is a real eye catcher and makes a
> great color contrast with the rest of the plant, the almost perfectly circular
> mouth with the figure eight pitcher shape is very attractive. They can also
> take a lot of abuse and a wide fluctuation in temperatures. My ventricosa is
> putting up flower stalks now, about a month and a half later than he did last
> year. He's been a very fast grower, I keep him in my screened porch and he's
> doing great.
>
> NH>Adrian Slack's first book mentions several pygmy species
> NH>by locality, but I can find no subsequent usage of those
> NH>names. Can anyone match them to things on Allen
> NH>Lowrie's latest list?
>
> Welcome to the list Nigel. Allen uses some former place names next to the
> scientific names of the species of pygmy drosera on his 1995-1996 list, for
> example:
>
> D. nitidula ssp. omissa X D. occidentalis = D. sp. "Lake Badgerup"
>
> I don't know if all the species formally named by locality you're looking for
> are there, but quite a few others on the list are translated in this manner.
>
> >I don't believe I have ever seen a picture of a cross with N.
> >bicalcarata and anything - do they exist?
>
> Hi Bob,
>
> There have been hybrids with bicalcarata, but from what I've heard many lack
> the "fangs" of the bicalcarata parent so the results are nondescript. I'm
> sure someone on this list has seen/made some and can detail which have had the
> "fangs" and which lacked them. I wonder if crossing the hybrid with a pure
> bicalcarata helps to bring them back. That's what our hobby needs, a rajah
> with 10-inch fangs! What a great plant for Halloween! :-)
>
> Regards,
>
> Demetrios
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 2
>
> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 12:58:13 +0100
> From: Jan@pbc-ths1.pci.chemie.uni-tuebingen.de (Jan Schlauer)
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: _Nepenthes bicalcarata_ hybrids
> Message-ID: <1382810910-4402955@pbc-ths1.pci.chemie.uni-tuebingen.de>
>
> Dear Bob & Demetrios,
>
> >>I don't believe I have ever seen a picture of a cross with N.
> >>bicalcarata and anything - do they exist?
> >
> >There have been hybrids with bicalcarata, but from what I've heard many lack
> >the "fangs" of the bicalcarata parent so the results are nondescript. (...)
>
> Two hybrids involving _N.bicalcarata_ have been published so far:
>
> N. * cantleyi nom.nud. is _N.bicalcarata * N.gracilis_.
>
> N. * 'Nina Dodd' (cf. J.T.Robinson, CPN 17:20, 1988) is _N.bicalcarata *
> ((N.northiana * N.maxima) * (N.rafflesiana * N.veitchii))_.
>
> Kind regards
> Jan
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 3
>
> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 08:53:36 -0400
> From: horticom@megatoon.com (Larry Hodgson)
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: New subscriber
> Message-ID: <v01510109ad93fe9edf1e@[198.53.28.97]>
>
> Hi! I'm a new subscriber to this list. I don't have that many carnivorous
> plants: only those that I have been able to find locally, such as Dionea, a
> few Drosera, an unnamed Pinguicula, etc. My pride and joy, though, is a
> Cephalotis follicularis that I picked up last fall when I was visiting
> Washington, D.C. and accidently ended up at the sales tent of an orchid
> show at the National Arboretum. Some very nice person (if you are on this
> list, thanks so much!) had brought in a few Cephalotis which the orchid
> people seemed to entirely ignore. Well, I ignored the orchids and picked up
> my treasured carnivore.
>
> I don't grow any carnivorous plants outdoors, but hope to some day, when I
> build my long-awaited water garden (it will have a bog garden next to it).
> There are a few (very few) carnivorous plants that are hardy here (between
> zone 3 and 4 according to the American system, 4 according to the Canadian
> one), including, of course, Sarracenia purpurea, which grows like a weed in
> the peat bogs all around here.
>
> Besides my very few carnivores, I grow lots of other houseplants: aroids,
> gesneriads, cacti, succulents, aquatics, etc., even a few orchids (which
> for some reason I don't much like, even though everyone tells me I should).
> I used to grow mostly under lights in my apartment, but three years ago we
> finally became homeowners and I immediately put up a 10 by 18' attached
> greenhouse (sort of a sunroom, since it is open to the house... in order to
> make it easier for the insects to spread around, naturally). This allows me
> to grow bigger plants (I used to stick to miniatures since they are much
> easier to control under lights).
>
> I'm looking forward to hearing from the others on this list.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Larry Hodgson
> Sainte-Foy, Quebec
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 4
>
> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 13:30:45 GMT
> From: andreas.wistuba@rhein-neckar.de (Andreas Wistuba)
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: Hi all...we're back...
> Message-ID: <316e5975.7005087@mail.rhein-neckar.de>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I just wanted to let you know that Heiko Rischer, myself and our
> girlfriends are are back from a wonderful trip to Sumatra. Sorry for
> all the mails I could not answer in the last 4 1/2 weeks.
>
> Bye,
>
> Andreas
> Andreas Wistuba; Mudauer Ring 227; 68259 Mannheim; Germany
> Phone: +49-621-705471 / +49-621-7152027
> Fax: +49-621-7152028
> E-Mail: andreas.wistuba@rhein-neckar.de
> WWW: http://www.rhein-neckar.de/~carnivor/index.html
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 5
>
> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 96 16:00:48 MET DST
> From: Paul Temple 12-Apr-1996 1458 <temple_p@fangio.enet.dec.com>
> To: "cp%opus.hpl.hp.com@dec":.vbo.vbormc@vbormc.vbo.dec.com (mail-11 daemon)
> Cc: "temple_p@dec":.gmt.fangio@vbormc.vbo.dec.com
> Subject: Re: "Extinct" Habitat
> Message-ID: <199604121400.QAA12674@vbormc.vbo.dec.com>
>
> +---------------------------+ TM From: Paul Temple
> | | | | | | | | Dept: Digital
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> +---------------------------+ Easynet: fangio::temple_p
> Internet: temple_p@gmt.dec.com
> Loc/MS: GMT
>
> At risk of inviting contradiction (followed by embarassment) but in the
> interests of discovering the truth....
>
> No doubt an expert (e.g. Jan) will be better able to reference the plant (I
> can't remember it) but I think that I can give an example of an extinct habitat
> resulting in plant loss.
>
> Isn't it true that one species of Utric was lost to cultivation following the
> disappearance of it's sole habitat. It grew on a volcano which regrettably did
> what comes naturally to volcanoes - Bang! Surely this is habitat extinction?
> The same would be true if a Pacific island were drowned following sea level
> rising. I've never seen the phrase "habitat extinction" but it seems a fair one
> to use under appropriate circumstances. Extinction seems more appropriate than
> "destruction" where the loss is natural (i.e. not caused by humankind).
>
> Regards
>
> Paul
>
> Regards
>
> Paul
> This is not a joke (blue leved Pings - harumph!) - I'm sure I remember reading
> something on this in an early CPN or equivalent CP journal.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 6
>
> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 11:03:46 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Oliver T Massey CFS <massey@hal.fmhi.usf.edu>
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: Re: _Nepenthes bicalcarata_ hybrids
> Message-ID: <199604121503.LAA10933@hal.fmhi.usf.edu>
>
>
> > >>I don't believe I have ever seen a picture of a cross with N.
> > >>bicalcarata and anything - do they exist?
> > >
> > >There have been hybrids with bicalcarata, but from what I've heard many lack
> > >the "fangs" of the bicalcarata parent so the results are nondescript. (...)
> >
> > Two hybrids involving _N.bicalcarata_ have been published so far:
> >
> > N. * cantleyi nom.nud. is _N.bicalcarata * N.gracilis_.
> >
> > N. * 'Nina Dodd' (cf. J.T.Robinson, CPN 17:20, 1988) is _N.bicalcarata *
> > ((N.northiana * N.maxima) * (N.rafflesiana * N.veitchii))_.
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Jan
>
> I have a N. bicalcarata * N. khasiana hybrid. It is a relatively young plant
> so it may change, but right now the pitchers are very much like N. khasiana.
> There are no fangs and the only visible (pitcher) influence of bical. is the
> more stocky, robust appearance of the trap and a somewhat deeper color. The
> bical. seems to influence the stocky growth of the plant including a very short
> internodal distance and the form of the leaves - as well as the slow rate of
> growth.
>
> Tom in Fl
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 7
>
> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 96 16:08:21 +0100
> From: "Paul Temple" <temple_p@gmt.dec.com>
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Cc: temple_p@gmt.dec.com
> Subject: Naming help please - P.heterophylla Papalo
> Message-ID: <9604121508.AA28121@fangio.gmt.dec.com>
>
> +---------------------------+ TM From: Paul Temple
> | | | | | | | | Dept: Digital
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> | | | | | | | | DTN: 7781-1582
> +---------------------------+ Easynet: fangio::temple_p
> Internet: temple_p@gmt.dec.com
> Loc/MS: GMT
>
> OK I've tried the CP Database on the net but I can't find a reference so ....
>
> Can anyone tell me the origins of the plant name
>
> P.heterophylla Papalo
>
> I'd like to know if the "Papalo" is an accepted varietal name and, if possible,
> whether anyone knows any retail or wholesale list or any journal which has
> published the name. Do we know who assigned the name, who first grew or found
> such a plant? Even if it is an improper name I'd still like all the info
> available on the name origin. Finally, do we know why the name was assigned
> (i.e. presumably the person who named it though the plant deserved the name).
> So is it a reference to a location (Papalo where?) or is it a reference to
> particular features that differ from the type form and, if so, how does it
> differ?
>
> This "Papalo" is a complete mystery to me so any help, no matter how
> insignificant you think it is, would be of help.
>
> Regards
>
> Paul
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 8
>
> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 09:03:59 +0700
> From: dholguin@socorro.k12.tx.us (David Holguin)
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: RE: Dean Cook
> Message-ID: <v01530500ad94746dac72@[198.213.200.94]>
>
> Ditto...Chris, Ditto...Jeff
> I too had the pleasure of doing business with Dean. I purchased a nepenthes
> from him and I was extremely happy with his service and the specimen. I
> have never seen such a healthy root system on a mail order nepenthes like
> that before!
> I'm setting up a new greenhouse and he even made me aware of some cultural
> and environmental variables I hadn't considered before....and no I'm not
> related either.
>
> Dave
>
> David Holguin
> Communications Department
> Socorro Independent School District
> 12300 Eastlake Dr.
> El Paso, Texas 79927-5407
> (915) 860-3423
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 9
>
> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 10:23:36 -0500 (CDT)
> From: MPM7347@ACS.TAMU.EDU
> To: CP@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: VFT infestation
> Message-ID: <960412102336.20401207@ACS.TAMU.EDU>
>
>
> Please, pardon my ignorance, however I am unable to name the critters enjoying
> my plants.. (MY plants not theirs.. :) ) They are very minisculed white-winged flying beasts.. are these aphids? If so I just never knew that the could be
> so small. They seem to be numerous in the soil and in the tank. What are your suggestions for erradicating these pests?. I appreciate all comments you havee..
> Also.. are these bugs possibly the cause of the small brown spots on my plants
> which grow into an epicenter for leaf rot. ARGH! Unfortunately I am not an
> entymologist.. Please forgive my ignorance.
> Thanks a bunch.. (If only these darned bugs would try to eat the trigger hairs..<;) Thanks for your help!\
>
> Mike
>
> Gig'em Aggies
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 10
>
> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 10:28:38 -0500 (CDT)
> From: MPM7347@ACS.TAMU.EDU
> To: CP@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: VFT Flowering/propagation
> Message-ID: <960412102838.20401207@ACS.TAMU.EDU>
>
> Hello again... me with the pest problem on my VFT .. again...
> I have another question.. I had the opportunity to purchase some VFT's which
> had already had the flower stem growing (to 4 inches on some plants.) I figure this would be a good oportunity to learn and experiment with VFT propogation so that when my plants go through the complete process I will be prepared (I mean
> my plants that have yet to bloom. )
> Is there any special care, or advice that you all may have for me.? I do want to have seeds..
> --Any care needed once the flower blooms?
> --Any noticeable point when flowers are ready to be mated? (other than the
> rough appearance on the stamen and other parts... ?
> --And How long can the seeds be stored, and what methods are best for storing
> them for greater longevity.
> --Also what is a good time to plant them (only in Summer?./.. )
>
> Thanks again!
> Mike M. Gig'em Aggies
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 11
>
> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 96 12:17:28 EDT
> From: korfhage@lis.pitt.edu (robert korfhage)
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: Re: VFT infestation
> Message-ID: <9604121617.AA28706@icarus.lis.pitt.edu>
>
> Sounds like white flies to me...I've had great success, as have many others,
> with yellow sticky pads (not those to write on, but those covered with a
> sticky substance). They don't get rid of the white flies completely, but they
> sure cut the population down quickly!
> Bob Korfhage
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 12
>
> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 09:11:41 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Sean Barry <sjbarry@ucdavis.edu>
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Cc: Multiple recipients of list <cp@opus.hpl.hp.com>
> Subject: Re: "Extinct" Habitat
> Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960412090444.28321B-100000@boris.ucdavis.edu>
>
> On Fri, 12 Apr 1996, Paul Temple 12-Apr-1996 1458 wrote:
>
> > rising. I've never seen the phrase "habitat extinction" but it seems a
> fair one to use under appropriate circumstances. Extinction seems more
> appropriate than "destruction" where the loss is natural (i.e. not
> caused by humankind).
>
> I believe that the broader expression "habitat loss" is the usual term
> for what you describe, as well as for any other habitat-related problem
> that causes the extinction of a living organism. "Extinction" generally
> refers in biology/conservation to the local or general loss of a living
> organism, not usually to what is really a n-dimensional concept
> ("habitat"). On the other hand, "extinction" in other areas (scientific
> and otherwise) is used more broadly, such as in extinct volcanoes, like
> the one (that is not yet extinct) that caused the habitat loss you
> described.
>
> Sean Barry
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 13
>
> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 96 12:31 EDT
> From: "Michael.Chamberland" <23274MJC@MSU.EDU>
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: Re: "Extinct" Habitat
> Message-ID: <199604121638.AA288267110@hplabs.hpl.hp.com>
>
> >
> > Isn't it true that one species of Utric was lost to cultivation following th
> > disappearance of it's sole habitat. It grew on a volcano which regrettably
>
> Lost TO cultivation? Is this Utric under cultivation?
>
> Michael Chamberland
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 14
>
> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 10:17:41 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Robert Beer <bbeer@u.washington.edu>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <cp@opus.hpl.hp.com>
> Subject: Re: _Nepenthes bicalcarata_ hybrids
> Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.92a.960412101647.25997E-100000@saul3.u.washington.edu>
>
> > I have a N. bicalcarata * N. khasiana hybrid. It is a relatively young plant
> > so it may change, but right now the pitchers are very much like N. khasiana.
> > There are no fangs and the only visible (pitcher) influence of bical. is the
> > more stocky, robust appearance of the trap and a somewhat deeper color. The
> > bical. seems to influence the stocky growth of the plant including a very short
> > internodal distance and the form of the leaves - as well as the slow rate of
> > growth.
>
> I guess the next step would be to do a backcross to N. bicalcarata and see
> if you could get some of the other characteristics into a fanged plant.
>
> bob
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 15
>
> Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 20:22:26 +0100
> From: Clarke Brunt <clarke@brunt.demon.co.uk>
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: Re: Darlingtonia Blooming
> Message-ID: <829329425.21566.0@brunt.demon.co.uk>
>
> On 11 Apr 96 at 9:38, Carlstrom_Rick wrote:
>
> > Could anyone in the State of Virginia (USA) tell me in what month
> > their Darlingtonia's Bloom? Mine is growing vigorously but has not
> > put up a flower. Also, Can Darlingtonia be Selfed?
>
> Don't know about Virginia, but here in the UK, the flower stems are
> the first thing to develop on my plants, before the new pitchers get
> going. I've got one flower at present in the greenhouse, but the
> plants outside in the cold haven't started yet.
>
> In my experience (both a friend's plant, and mine) they can be
> self pollinated.
>
> --
> Clarke Brunt (clarke@brunt.demon.co.uk)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 16
>
> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 96 16:42 EDT
> From: dave evans <T442119@RUTADMIN.RUTGERS.EDU>
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: Re: VFT Flowering/propagation
> Message-ID: <199604122053.AA119112401@hplabs.hpl.hp.com>
>
> > Hello again... me with the pest problem on my VFT .. again...
> > I have another question.. I had the opportunity to purchase some VFT's which
> > had already had the flower stem growing (to 4 inches on some plants.) I figure this would be a good oportunity to learn and experiment with VFT propogation so that when my plants go through the complete process I will be prepared (I mean
> > my plants that have yet to bloom. )
> > Is there any special care, or advice that you all may have for me.? I do want to have seeds..
> > --Any care needed once the flower blooms?
>
> No, but if you want the plant to make pollen, thereby giving you seed,
> then give it as much light as possible. Of course, you will not know
> until after the flowers open if it's not enough :(.
>
> > --Any noticeable point when flowers are ready to be mated? (other than the
> > rough appearance on the stamen and other parts... ?
>
> The pollen is ready the first and second day, there maybe some left by
> the third. The stimgas open on the second or third day. I don't know
> how long they last but I would pollinate it a couple times as you could
> end up with more seed that way.
>
> > --And How long can the seeds be stored, and what methods are best for storing
> > them for greater longevity.
>
> Dry and in the fridge.? Probably for a long time = several years.
> Maybe decades?
>
> > --Also what is a good time to plant them (only in Summer?./.. )
>
> They should be stratified as just about any temperate plant will
> benefit from this. Sow in the late fall on moist soil, or on a
> moist towel and refridgerate for a couple weeks. This cold
> treatment degrades a hormone that keeps the seed/plant dormant.
> Not all temperates *need* it but it will not hurt them either.
>
> Dave Evans
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 17
>
> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 17:43:48 GMT
> From: Peter Cole <carnivor@bunyip.demon.co.uk>
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: Re: Drosera on ICPS newsletter
> Message-ID: <4751@bunyip.demon.co.uk>
>
> dave evans writes:
> ...
> > > D.capillaris perhaps?
> >
> > I don't think so, as it is growing *upright*, so that could indicate
> > D.intermedia but it doesn't look like that one either!
> > Doesn't D.romaimae grow along with Heliamphora? That one is a stem
> > forming plant, I think. Jan?
>
> Hmm - the leaf at the top right certainly appears to be somewhat
> erect, but the bottom edge of the rosette looks like recumbent
> spathulate leaves to me, and I can't actually see a stem - the green/
> red splodge under this leaf *might* be, but looks to me more like old,
> dying leaves. It could be more erect obovate leaves (eg: intermedia,)
> viewed to some extent end on, but the petioles would be extremely
> long. I would also expect the opposite leaves at the bottom left of
> the rosette to be angled more if this was the case.
>
> I've always imagined D.roraimae as being shorter-petioled than this,
> but now I think about it, I can't recall ever actually seeing one.
> My own attempts to germinate the species have met with zero success
> to date.
>
> Does anyone (Jan?) know what Drosera are to be found at an altitude
> of 2400m on Auyan tepui? That would narrow the field a bit.
>
> Happy growing,
>
> Peter
>
>
> snail:Peter Cole,17 Wimmerfield Cr. :mailto:carnivor@bunyip.demon.co.uk
> Killay, SWANSEA SA2 7BU, WALES :http://www.angel.co.uk/flytrap/index.htm
> vox:+44 1792 205214 :ftp://www.angel.co.uk/pub/flytrap
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 18
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> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 17:40:59 -0700
> From: bb626@scn.org (SCN User)
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: Re: Fast growing Neps
> Message-ID: <199604130040.RAA27079@scn.org>
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> Bob,
> Leo had done several crosses with N. bical. Some of those were with
> N. khasiana,xdreamy koto, xnagoya and the one with the most potential
> Xrokko3*thorelli aglow koto.The later male parent has good shrubby
> compact growth with a flaired peristome and alot of red color in the
> pitcher. The cross has a striped peristome with red fangs on a compact
> plant. Most likely the crosses with xdreamy koto and xnagoya will also
> have some of these traits.
> Truly,
>
> --
> Tom Kahl/Nepenthes Club
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> End of CP Digest 681
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