Sorry do start in on this conversation, however, frilly lids and fuzzy 
pitchers do not a venosa make!
I have seen purps in Northern Ontario that are both fuzzy and have wavy 
lids. At the same time I've seen smooth, plants down south!!  
Carl Mazur
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> Don't bother with that...  just get a large pitcher, stand back..  if
> the side of the hood is straight it's purpurea, if it's frilly it's
> venosa.  If it's halfway between you either have an intergraded plant
> or one serious eyesight problem (no offence). 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Toby
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