Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 18:21:57 -0400 From: "Paul V. McCullough" <pvmcull@voicenet.com> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com Message-Id: <aabcdefg3079$foo@default> Subject: Multiple responses again...
Dave Evans wrote:
> I can just about guarantee you have Mexican Butterworts and they
> are probably hybrids. First, the species to which the flowers appear
> to belong would be dead if Home Depot had them. :-Q
>
Many seem to think this, but the Mexican pings bare little
resemblance (as in none) to my tentative longifolia ssp
ri-somethingorother. Again, I'll post photos of plant and flower as
soon as I can.
Oh, come on, Home Depot doesn't kill everything... just most of
everything. It actually depends on the Home Depot outlet. Some are
CP-aware, others are CP-ignorant. Some McDonald's make a great Big Mac,
others make a raw burger on fetid lettuce with wilted pickles and no
special sauce. :) (Sorry... I'm dieting... everything relates to food
right now!)
> They do go dormant in dry Mexican winter, right?
>
Couldn't say... I haven't had any ping thru winter yet.
> I've seen D.filiformis
> growing in very dry soil, but they didn't have anything on the plants
> growing in wetter conditions - less than half the size of the wetter
> plants, though they had flowered and set seed so they can get by on
> drier ground.
>
This describes the d. filiformis I saw. Once again, I didn't see
ANY filiformis in the water or at the edge. From what you say, it could
be that they're hidden there... but as I said, the Park officer stated
that she observed "threaded" sundews only out in the "drier" soil.
Also, we got down in the thick of things, and we still didn't see them.
This would imply that if they're there, they're a very rare compared to
the land-lubbing filiformii. One other thing, there were postings that
swimming was prohibited at this site... and there was a runoff of slime
at one end. This is why I was wondering if some chemical component
might be in the water that filiformis can't tolerate. People- kids
especially- were, typically, frolicing in the the water. (Ugh!)
One interesting thing, two adjacent filiformis plants were wrestling
for capture of a bug! The two traps involved not only wrapped around
the bug, but each other! Never saw that happen before!
> Perhaps because the humidity in your set-up is much more consistent.
> Most plants that can, tend to hung the ground in brighter (less humid),
> more exposed (wind, another humidity reducer) areas than those with
> even stightly more protection. Could be hybrids though, I wish I'd
> see them when bog tromping!!!
>
I just can't be sure. Anyone ever cross a rotundifolia and
intermedia (or any combo with filiformis of those two) and take pictures
of the resulting hybrids? Maybe d. rotundifolia infants have more
spatulate leaves first?
Michael A Sankovich wrote:
> I too witnessed this phenomenon in the forest last year. It
> makes no sense to take seed pods this early since the seeds are not yet
> mature. My own observations at this site were lots of deer tracks and
> upon closer examination I determined that the White-tailed deer had an
> appetite for Sars. seed pods. All looked as if they were neatly cut with
> a knife but I believe that it was the incisors of these oversized rats.
>
Bambi is an "oversized rat"? :)
Sorry, Michael, I had to... anyway, I never considered this... I'd
be willing to bet it was poachers, though. The level of upheaval in
some parts was criminal. Oh, and for those stating that it's too early
to harvest seed, there were plenty of hidden sarracenia pods that were
deep brown. I agree with Dave Evans, I hope their (the poachers) efforts
were in vain.
Cheers,
Paul
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