Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1980 18:19:29 -0800 From: Phil Sheridan <meadowview@pitcherplant.org> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com Message-Id: <aabcdefg1236$foo@default> Subject: Re: Global warming
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Hi Folks:
Mike raised some very good points in his discussion below on global
warming. However, what I did not see Mike explain is the documented
increase in global CO2 over the last hundred years. I do not recall
seeing this increase being attributed to natural causes but to
anthropogenic CO2 increases concommitant with the industrial revolution.
Also, the global temperature increase is real. The satellites have not
recorded temperature increases because they are measuring temperature in
the UPPER ATMOSPHERE. Wouldn't we expect temperature increases from
elevated greenhouse gases to be recorded at the surface anyway
(perecisely where the increases have been recorded)? Finally, why play
russian roulette with our environment anyway? If there is any
possibility of humanity perturbing out environment than clearly we
should be erring on the side of caution. Prudence would dictate
anticipating a worst case scenario and adjusting our behavior. When it
comes to national defense we have no problem justifying extraordinary
expense for eventualities. I would expect the same treatment with our
environment. Yes the planet has seen radical, natural change in the past
but why would we inflict this on a system we have coevolved with? We are
already seeing increased extinction rates and if we persist in our
behavior maybe we will be next!
Sincerely,
Phil Sheridan
Director
Meadowview Biological
Research Station
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> Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 11:23:45 -0500
> From: "Strata, Inc." <strata@flash.net>
> To: <cp@opus.hpl.hp.com>
> Subject: To Michael, chamb@u.arizona.edu RE: People causing global warming
> Message-ID: <000901bfa6f7$0bdb0820$2a41d7d8@strata>
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> You wrote:
> "...Global warming/climate change may prove to be a problem but that'll have
> to be addressed at the source (namely, us; vehicle emissions, etc.)".
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> This is simply wrong. I know because I wrote my thesis on global warming
> and the "greenhouse effect" and got a PhD for it from the University of
> Texas. I will share some generalities with you in order to put your mind at
> ease, as well as to dispel erroneous beliefs regarding the subject.
>
> In a nutshell, the observed warning of the earth's surface temperature since
> the late 19th century is about 1.5 degrees. A bunch of scientists (IPCC),
> eager to be published, tenured, and receive mucho dollars in grants, created
> computer models to show how we evil humans were destroying the earth with
> out cars. Both IPCC assessments (in 1990 and 1995) regarding the raise of
> tremperature on earth were a flop, proven wrong with satellite data.
>
> Vehicle emissions are the 4th largest contributing factor to greenhouse
> gasses. They are bested by the natural evaporation of water, the natural
> decomposition of plant material, and cow flatulation (yes, cow farts!). In
> fact, the population of China just by breathing, produces more carbon oxides
> daily than all the vehicles in the USA running!
>
> In a few words, it has NEVER been proven that human actions are the primary
> contributor to
> "global warming" or the "greenhouse effect". Think about who benefits from
> creating such a hysteria: A bunch of professors (do you have any idea what
> being published and being tenured means to a college professor?), a bunch of
> people-hating, extremist, militant conservation groups (and their milder
> cousins like Sierra club) who make a bunch of money from members'
> contributions and government grants, and who would otherwise have to get a
> real job, and Al Gore who has staked part of his Presidential election
> reputation on an unprovable theory (he also invented the Internet - not!)!
>
> The links below offer some relief for the layman. If you are interested in
> hard-core scientific research data (temperature-change tables, precise
> component measurements of greenhouse gasses, and such) I will be glad to
> provide you with some.
>
> Sleep easy! The earth's temperature IS changing, but it has been changing
> for millions of years naturally, and although there ARE "greenhouse gasses",
> people are a minor contributor to their creation. Animals and plants become
> extinct naturally (remember the dinosaurs?). We the People should
> definately take steps to safeguard our environment, but lets not get
> hysterical about it, especially without a scientific and factual basis.
>
> Take care,
> Michael Pagoulatos
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> http://www.globalwarming.org/index.htm
> http://www.cato.org/dailys/6-30-97.html
> http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-329es.html
> http://www.skepticism.net/global_warming/scientific_consensus.html
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