Date: Wed, 27 May 98 17:01 EDT From: dave evans <T442119@RUTADMIN.RUTGERS.EDU> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com Message-Id: <aabcdefg1819$foo@default> Subject: Re: Re: Is smoking dangerous to your Nepenthes?
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> From: Doug Burdic <dburdic@PRESYS.COM>
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> Subject: Re: Is smoking dangerous to your Nepenthes?
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> Paul Temple Wrote:
>
>
> > Yes
> >
> > Assuming the smoker owns the plants, the smoker dies (painfully) and the
> > plants then die from neglect! Poor plants.
> >
> > (Sorry - I just couldn't resist the opportunity)
> >
> > Paul
> > (Believer that Directors of Cigarette companies should be jailed for murder.)
>
>
>
>
>
> Perry Malouf wrote:
> >
> > Chia-Chern Chen wrote:
> >
> > > I have many nepenthes. They have been well until 2 weeks ago....
> >
> > > My question is 1.Is smoking dangerous to my nepenthes?
> > >
> > > 2.Is pesticide poisonous to my nepenthes?
> > >
> > > All the 25 nepentheses die within the same week.
> >
> > Ouch, sorry to hear about this. Such an event in my collection
> > would leave me heartbroken, too. :-(
> >
> > Your first question is an interesting one, and I have no answer
> > from experience. I'm not a smoker, and so my plants are not exposed
> > to smoke of any kind. I would find it hard to believe that the
> > smoke from a neighbor's apartment, seeping in through the walls,
> > would be so toxic to your plants. If this is really the case,
> > then you yourself might consider breathing from a scuba unit
> > while you're at home. If it affects your plants to such a degree,
> > then it probably will also affect you.
> >
> > There must be some other cause. Has some change occurred in the
> > water you are using for the plants? Are you using colored
> > styrofoam in the bottom of your pots? For the latter case, the
> > plants wouldn't show symptoms until their roots grew into the
> > styrofoam. But even then the symptoms would become manifest
> > over a couple of weeks before the plant died (depending on the
> > size of the plant).
> >
> > You should examine the dead plants to see where the damage occurred.
> > Are there roots on the dead plants? Does the potting media smell
> > anaerobic? Is there evidence of fungus or other pests?
> >
> > Regarding your second question, I've used Orthene, Subdue, and
> > Zyban on my plants with no ill effects (to me or the plants).
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Perry Malouf
>
> ========================================================================
> Hi,
>
> I've been a cigarette smoker for 30 years and grown CP including
> Nepenthes during that time with no ill effects to my plants whatsoever.
> One of the original pesticides used in early horticultural days was
> Nicotine Sulfate as a matter of fact. There is a plant virus called
> Tobacco Mosiac Virus which can be transmitted by a smoker's hands to
> members of the Solanaceae family like potatoes & tomatoes, eggplant,
> etc, but not to cp. I smoke in my greenhouse constantly and anyone who
> has seen it can verify that the only damage caused to the plants in
> there is from little insects, fungus, kids, cats, racoons and maybe
> dropping a pack of cigarettes out of my pocket onto some new growth
> which snaps off upon impact. Might be careful about alcohol though..I
> don't drink, but I know the effects which can result from having a drunk
> near your plants, or spilling a drink on Nepenthes..not a pretty sight.
>
> Take care,
>
> Doug
>
> Douglas Burdic
> dburdic@presys.com
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